if you want to talk about closing the debt, the deficit. allow fracking. frac away. by the way, there is nothing, never has been any proof of disease or anything -- >> greg: they tried it with breast cancer -- >> bob: i wasn't supposed to talk about the disease part. andrea made a good point. marellus shale runs from ohio, to upper new york state. our friend denny harton you met. friend from west virginia. he convinced me how safe fracking was. it's an important point. if you drive buss with natural gas, it seems you can drive anything with natural gas, right? >> bob: he told me we didn't have the infrastructure to carry natural gas. why not invest in infrastructure to carry natural gas? not have so much dependency on foreign oil. >> kimberly: welcome to the conservative party, bob beckel. >> andrea: can you spread that in your party >> eric: >> bob: when you have that much of an energy resource and you know it runs things, the only problem, of course, is that -- well, anyway. >> greg: k.g. -- >> kimberly: i'm for fracking all the way and anything that gives us energ